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The end of the Big 4?


For years UK, Spain, France & Germany have automatically been allowed to participate in the final but with the upcoming EBU/ESC meeting in Athens later this year, could the Big 4 lose their places?

The head of the Eurovision Song Contest, Svante Stockselius, told MediaGuardian.co.uk that potential changes would be discussed when the 42 participating countries meet next month.

"Every year, we evaluate and debrief each contest. We will discuss these things there," Stockselius said.

"We did a couple of big changes to this year's event, with the introduction of two semi-finals.

"We do not exclude that we will look into different changes for next year."

When asked if the poor performance of the "big four" countries could be down to other countries purposely voting against them, he replied: "It could be."

Stockselius added: "I don't think it is jealousy, but it might be that people think: 'Why should we vote for them when they are automatically in the final? Lets vote for someone else'. It could be something like that."

Making the "big four" compete in the Eurovision semi-finals could lead to them cutting their funding, but Stockselius said the scale of sponsorship the contest now attracts meant it could afford to carry on without this money.

"Of course we would have to look into funding, but we have such big sponsorship now it could manage," he said. "It would be a point of discussion."

The BBC's controller of entertainment commissioning, Elaine Bedell, told MediaGuardian.co.uk that the corporation was keen to talk to the EBU about potential changes.

"We are going to sit down with the EBU pretty soon to see what the best way forward is," she said.

However, taking part in the semi-final could lead to a position where the UK misses out on a place in the final.

This is a scenario the BBC would be keen to avoid when, due to its contract, it has to screen the three-hour final in peaktime on BBC1.

However, Stockselius said: "That is a question 38 other broadcasters have to face."

BBC sources said the corporation had an "open mind" about the UK potentially losing its automatic place in the final.

"We would have to think clearly about it, although it would be a bit odd giving over primetime without the UK in the final," one insider said.

Stockselius added that taking part in the semi-finals might be a decision the "big four" broadcasters should take for themselves in order to bring greater interest to the contest.

"Maybe it should be something for the broadcasters to consider," he added. "They would most probably get a better rating in the semi-final."

BBC insiders said that as well as potential changes to the contest's structure, questions also had to be asked about what acts the UK put forward in future.

"The viewing figures [for this year's contest] were fantastic, but we need to think about the sorts of musical acts we put forward in the future and how we want to approach it," a BBC insider said.

Stockselius said he did not agree with the argument that the "big four" would never win again, adding it was "fully natural and understandable" for countries to be disappointed when they did badly.



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they will not take participate again or this big 4 is not exist anymore?

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the Big 4 will have to take part in semi-finals from now on (if rules change) to make it fairer for eveyone - they say it will make them more popular as well because people think it is unfair they do not have to go to semi-final.

i think its a good idea - the BBC said they would think about it - UK, Fr, etc should at least try it

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I agree..it wil be more fair for other countries

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I think it will be more fair and anyway the big 4 always get in the bottom 10 so they are just a waste because a better song could get to the final instead.

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Oh, thank God:)))I hate that stupid rule.

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Omg I'm sorry for them because they now never will be in the final because their songs are always bad especialy France.

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That doesn't mean that they won't send better song on the ESC.

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They can send better songs, it's on their hands I think, but the countries don't vote for them..

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THANKS!! I'm so ashamed because of the German songs every year! Now they have to send good sons to get into the final!!

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Yes, we think it's fair! :D

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Aurora wrote:

Oh, thank God:)))I hate that stupid rule.




I agree! it's so unfair!



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Well, it would definitely improve the quality of the songs. France hasn't had a decent entry since Ortal... who deserved much more than eleven points.



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Ortal was good, but not great. The end of the big 4 would make it all much fairer!!

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Ortal was this year's perticipate?
i didnt like him xD

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No not this year, a few years ago with a song called "chaqun pense a soi" it was really really good

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Ok. i will look for it:)

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They are always sending bad songs and they have right to complain.It si over, yuhusmileI'm sorry if I hurt someone but we all know that isn't fair.

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I'm from the UK and I hate that we're always in the final automatically!

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it;s great so other countries make it to the finals easier

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